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IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
AND A FEW
PRE-PURCHASE TIPS
All listings are for information
purposes only and are not necessarily endorsed by the NTAMC Club.
Regardless of our recommendations or your research, buyer assumes all
risk and agrees to hold the NTAMC Club, it's members and officers
harmless. The following tips and recommendations will help you buy smart
and ensure you're getting the quality, performance and service you
expect. Please support your favorite AMC vendors with your repeat
business.
How To Buy Parts From Vendors:
Vendors only have three
things they can sell you: product, price and service. Pick any two but
you'll never get the best of all three (i.e. you won't be able to buy
the highest quality product at the cheapest price with a 110% money back
guarantee, zero restocking fee and the highest level of service).
Thoroughly research your purchase BEFORE you buy. That said, ask your
club members, racers and fellow AMC friends for their opinions and read
the AMC forums about your vendors and the parts you are interested in
buying. Generally, opinions can vary but with some thorough
research, you can quickly find out who has the best product, price or service and which parts will work
best for your application. The best days to order parts are Monday through Wednesday
and place your order as
early as possible as. Most vendors have a shipping cut off of 12:00PM
EST and it may take several hours to several days to get your order ready to ship.
When ordering, have your credit card
and parts/part numbers ready, tell them your specific application,
shipping instructions (most cannot ship to a P.O. Box) and ask for a
total with shipping, handling and applicable sales tax charges. Some
orders may have extremely long lead times (up to several weeks or
months). If you MUST have a part now, ask if the item is in stock and
if not, approximately how long before it ships. Most vendors will not
charge your card until your order ships. Some purchases may be special
order only and ARE NOT RETURNABLE (check your vendors order policy).
Items used for racing and/or
off-road use may not be 50-state legal and may not include any warranty
(check with your vendor when ordering). For maximum assurance, request
your order include full insurance with shipment tracking and delivery
signature confirmation using UPS or FedEx. Shipments will not be
delivered on holidays or on Saturdays or Sundays (unless you request
Saturday delivery at an extra charge). Inspect ALL shipments to insure
you have received the order in full (including hardware and
instructions) and that it is in good condition. DO NOT accept damaged
shipments. Some vendors may require you to call them and request an RGA
or RMA # before sending an item back and they will require specific
packing and shipping instructions. SOME vendors may have required
restocking fees up to 25%, less shipping and handling and the item(s)
may need to be returned within 10 days to 1-year (depending on the
vendor) in original packaging in like new condition with a copy of your
original receipt so be sure of your order BEFORE you buy.
Some parts may not work well for
YOUR application or with your existing combination. Horsepower, torque
and performance figures are subject to normal variation caused by and
not limited to altitude, humidity, barometric pressure, temperature,
powertrain age/condition/state of tune, dyno brand & calibration, etc.
There is a point of diminishing returns (adding several parts together
may not produce a total horsepower figure equal to all parts
individually). Some products may differ from the actual photo shown on
a web site or in a catalog.
Please contact your vendor(s)
directly with any problems and keep accurate records of the facts. Be
nice, calm and try to work out any issues BEFORE disputing any
purchases. Purchases made on debit cards CANNOT be disputed like credit
cards. Purchases made by credit card can only be disputed for a limited
time (check with your credit card company).
You won't get anywhere by being a
being rude, mean or nasty. If you are a 1%er that can never be
satisfied (and you know who you are), realize that no business should
have to deal with that. If you expect that you will never be satisfied,
you won't be...ever! Good, bad or indifferent, vendors are humans too
which means they can simple mistakes or misunderstand what you really
want. Realize up front every vendor can make mistakes, yes EVERY
vendor. Make every attempt for them to make your situation right on
the phone or via e-mail. Give them time to respond to you and realize
that they may not be able to snap their fingers and make it 100% correct
immediately. After reasonable attempts to satisfy you and you're still
not happy, simply don't do business with them again.
Please act intelligently,
responsibly, respectfully and like an adult: DO NOT flame your vendors
on forums and/or newsgroups. THEY must make a living and have families
and employees to support. THEY can't do that effectively by dealing
with customers who intentionally flame them publically. Again, always
be nice and it will eventually come back to you many times over.
Buying used performance parts or
parts out of a junk yard can save you money but it can also cost you
more than you think. "Some" used parts can be warped, cracked, ready to
fail or may have been repaired improperly. You simply won't know
without an in-depth inspection prior to purchase and then having a
thorough check after the purchase (hot tanking or bead/sand blasting &
magnafluxing which checks for cracks).
NEVER buy parts from someone over
the Internet who request a money order or cashier's check only without
seeing at least a photograph to verify the part in fact exists. Even
then, it's a risk because those payment methods CANNOT be disputed.
Consider using Pay Pal for your purchases. Anyone can easily sign up
for
Pay Pal in minutes PLUS they offer excellent purchase protection.
Pay Pal works for just about any type of purchase too (even overseas
purchases).
Getting Your Parts Installed:
Some parts may require
specialized tools and/or in-depth mechanical knowledge. If you don't
feel comfortable and/or don't have the knowledge and/or tools to work on
your own vehicle, seek the help of a qualified mechanic. Sometimes, you
"might" be able to find a mechanical gear head in a club to help you
work on your car. Some items may not come with instructions or hardware
and "may" require fitting, adapting and/or separate substantial
purchases to fit/function properly (this is normal with aftermarket
parts).
Make sure you have a service shop
manual handy, the proper tools, a ventilating fan and lots of patience.
The service shop manual will detail necessary tools, torque specs,
sealants required, installation/removal sequence, etc. You can rent
some tools locally from local auto parts stores or you can go to Sears,
Lowes, Harbor Freight, Northern or local hardware or auto parts stores
for tools. You'll likely need a basic set of SAE wrenches, 3/8", 1/4"
and 1/2" drive ratchets with short/long/flexible extensions, deep and
standard sockets up to 1", Phillips & flat head screw drivers (magnetic
bits come in handy), torque wrench, charged or corded drill with variety
of bits, hammer, scissors, floor jack and jack stands, shop lights,
extension cord, thread locker, anti-seize, penetrating oil, carb
cleaner, hand cleaner, shop towels and a shop broom with dust pan. Some
jobs will require an air compressor with air tools, torch, soldering
iron/solder, wiring strippers & connectors, wire brush, battery terminal
cleaner, saw horse, special drill bits, welding equipment, special
jacks, engine hoist and multiple people to help you.
Thoroughly clean and degrease all
necessary areas first (areas of your vehicle where you'll be working on
as well as the surrounding work areas). Then, take detailed up-close
photos of the parts you'll be working on from multiple angles with
bright light BEFORE removing or replacing. This will help you should
you need to know how the parts fit together but may not be shown or
depicted in your service shop manual.
Carburetor cleaner or a parts washer
can effectively clean bolts of grease and grime. Penetrating oil makes
removing rusty or seized bolts and nuts easier. Anti-seize (for areas
not requiring semi-permanent thread locker) makes future bolt and nut
removal easier. Try not to get brake fluid on your paint: it will
permanently ruin it. Before cutting or drilling anything, measure three
times and cut or drill once. Remember the following when tightening or
loosening most nuts, bolts and screws: righty tighty and lefty loosey.
Torque all bolts to factory service shop manual specs using a torque
wrench (click type works very well).
Spend the extra time to clean up and
re-organize your work area and tools before you call it a day. Keep
hand cleaner and shop towels in your work area and use them BEFORE
sitting in your car or going into your house. It will make it much
easier the next time you want to work on your car and your wife,
girlfriend or significant other will appreciate it!
How To Find And Buy The "Right"
Car: It will cost you up to
10 times as much to fix a rusted out car versus a car with little or no
rust. Look for cars with as little rust as possible (great areas
to search are Washington, Oregon and British Columbia). Be willing to
settle on colors and options or you may spend years searching and never
find the right car. Building a "work in progress" or project car will
always cost you far more than buying a completed car from someone else.
The amount of money you will spend on a restoration has nothing to do
with true market value (it might cost you $100K to restore a car that
the market says is worth only $35K so choose carefully).
Buy the car model you really want
and are most passionate if you plan on keeping it for a while or never
selling it as you'll be happier with it in the long
run. Approximately 75% of the cars for sale on eBay are junk and are
more trouble than they are worth. You might get lucky here but the odds
are seriously stacked against you. Look for cars owned by club members
and/or enthusiasts as they tend to really care about and maintain their
cars. Local and national club members usually know who has nice cars
and some "might" be willing to sell them at a fair market value. While
at a show, put business cards on the nice cars you might want to own.
On the back of those business cards write something like, "looking for a
19XX make and model car in good to excellent condition. Willing to pay
fair market value for the right car" Odds say if you hand out 10 cards,
7 people will never all you back, 3 people have the car you want and one
or two will call you back willing to sell you their car. Pay attention
to the owner's home and surrounding neighborhood (you usually won't find
"nice" cars in bad areas). Avoid cars that don't have a clean title or
you may buy a car you don't own and lose your investment. Most
cars are getting so old that you may have difficulty finding owners who
have the original windows sticker, invoice and complete maintenance
records.
Thoroughly check out the car your
interested in during daylight hours with a qualified mechanic and
qualified paint/body technician you know and trust. AMC's never matched
VIN numbers to a specific engine block as with other manufacturers and
you really can't tell the visual difference from a 304, 360 or 401
(except for the stamping near the passenger side engine mount).
Further, installing an AMC 401 in place of smaller AMC engines actually
increases the value among hobbyists. Look for hidden rust, body filler,
signs of previous accidents, cracked cylinder heads or block, internal
engine damage, wiring problems, fluid leaks, proper operating
temperatures, etc. Use your senses here (listen for strange sounds and
pay attention for weird smells). Engine knocking (a sound similar to
bb's rolling around in a can) can be major engine damage and expensive
to fix. Let the car set outside with the windows rolled up for
about 15 minutes to an hour. Then, get inside the car and smell. If you smell urine
inside the car (a unique smell vastly different from mold or mildew), walk away. No matter what
you do, you'll NEVER get the smell out. Ask for a complete pre-purchase
inspection and written appraisal from a qualified automotive appraiser.
The $250 or so you'll spend on a pre-purchase inspection and written
appraisal just might save you thousands by preventing you from buying
the wrong car.
There is an "art of the buy and the
sell". If you don't know what you are doing, hire someone who is
qualified to represent you during the purchase process. NEVER buy a car
sight unseen, from photos only or without following the above
guidelines. Avoid ads that say "restored sparing no expense", it's
usually marketing hype. If it's too good to be true it probably is.
Trust your "gut reaction" and don't second guess yourself. Research,
research, research: the devil is in the details here. There are
several books on AMC's so read them thoroughly BEFORE purchasing a car
so you know what to look for: Buyer beware!!!
Auctions "can" be a great place to
buy a car (especially at "no reserve" auctions). At no reserve auctions
(like Barrett Jackson), cars are required to be sold regardless of the
final offer. Most auctions require a 10% buyer commission that the
buyer pays and
a 10% premium that the seller pays. The buyer will also need to pay a
registration fee to bid on cars plus tax, title, license and
transportation costs from the auction site. Usually, you'll need to
pick up the vehicle you buy within 48 hours of the auction close or pay
expensive daily storage fees. So, either pre-arrange or arrange transportation at the auction with one of the
on-site transport companies. At auctions, you'll be able to pre-examine a
vehicle a day or two before the auction begins so it's a great time to
bring or seek out an expert appraiser and paint/body person. Most
buyers at auctions are looking for deals to make a fast buck by flipping
a car. If you look carefully, you may find many of the same cars over
and over again over the course of a year or two. Many who attend own
large collections, have deep pockets and it's likely you'll be bidding
against them. They are counting on you to get caught up in the
frenzy of the auction for them so they can clean up. Exercise extreme caution here: If you don't know what
you are doing, hire someone who is qualified to represent you during the
bidding process.
Restoring Versus Modifying:
Old cars "can" be made to
have some modern conveniences with improved steering, braking,
suspension performance without spending a fortune. On the other
hand, you won’t be able to turn your old car into a new Z06 Corvette or
Shelby GT500 Mustang (i.e. you can't turn a sows' ear into a silk
purse). Most of the old cars did not have power windows, power door
locks, cruise, navigation systems, MP3 players, in dash DVD players,
power seats, power trunk, keyless remotes, etc. Adding these
conveniences really won't help increase the value of your vehicle
(unless the right buyer is interested in it - a rare situation).
Remember, your car is only original "once" but it can be returned to stock appearing or stock "if" the original parts were
kept by the owner. Be VERY careful with modifications for future resale
value: it's all part of a wise exit strategy. Try to keep it original
or stock appearing and keep your original parts (with all hardware,
cleaned, tagged with what the part is and place in storage bags with
desiccant packets - storage supplies are available from Eastwood).
If you don't have room to save your original parts, ask a friend, rent a
storage facility or sell them on eBay or one of the classified sites
(someone else probably has a use for the parts you aren't using and is
willing to pay fair market value for them).
Modifications you make may not have
very much market appeal to hobbyists who may want to buy your car down
the road. For example, if you convert over to a modern fuel injection
GM or Mopar engine with overdrive transmission, you have seriously
affected the value of your car among hobbyists and they'll likely pass
should you decide to sell. Modifications that improve the steering,
braking, handling, exhaust, tires/wheels, and audio of your car without
going "too far" can be an excellent upgrade and won't serve to hurt
values much. 100 point show cars are rare: they must be tailored
everywhere and are most aren't driven. This route can cost you a
fortune so unless you have "deep pockets" avoid this route. Don't go
"too far" by over-restoring your car. Back in the day, no factory cars
had $20,000 paint jobs and you'll likely never recover much of the costs
for this or other outlandish upgrades.
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